past where the founders imagined it. >> host: given how different things are today, too, how we go along as writers and political figures come as judges and professors, how do we go about translating the principles of the 18th-century for the world of the 21st century? the talk about free speech we of the internet, they talk about the salvation of power, we have the administrative state. so you talk about this as an ongoing process, but given how different the world is today, how do we translate the wonderful historical unprecedented as you say in sight of the 18th-century to a different world of the 21st century? >> guest: it's not easy. that is a difficult task and i think one of the things i object to with so much of the propaganda that i was responding to was that it made it sound very easy and what we need to do is this, we need to go back to what the founders intended, which is just problematic on a whole lot of different levels.